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Martins Ferry looking at security boxes

January 25, 2013

MARTINS FERRY - The fire department is asking city council to consider passing an ordinance requiring the use of security boxes in town using the Knox Box syste....

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LifeLongOV

Jan-25-13 9:49 AM

$200-$10,000.... and you want an ordinance to 'force' people to buy it ? Y'all wait around for 45 mins ? Whdn, (obviously NO real emergency exsists) One thing to say about this : HA HA HA HA HA HA ROFL

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LifeLongOV

Jan-25-13 9:51 AM

When....

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mferry

Jan-25-13 2:19 PM

Do your research lifelongov because this will save money in the long run. A few months ago there was a fire in Shadyside and they had to check the adjacent structure for fire extension. Without a keyholder they had to gain entry. With a Knox box this could have been prevented. So sit there on your computer and say hahaha. Do some research before you post.

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Captregis

Jan-25-13 7:02 PM

Well lifelong some of us have because it is in the responsibility of doing the job correctly. Unlike you who only serves the purposes of posting idiotic and uninformed posts on here I did my homework and presented facts. A $250 box to hide securely lock one key in versus a FD forcing entry on a $3500 commercial door plus the cost of installation and locks. Read the article because we would work with the business community to accomplish this project.

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UNCOMMONSENSE

Jan-25-13 7:09 PM

There is NO WAY I would EVER allow local government 24 hour access to MY business!

This has a HUGE potential for abuse!

And REQUIRING a business to do so sounds like something I would not hesitate to challenge in court!

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mferry

Jan-25-13 10:11 PM

Well uncommonsense what has the martins ferry fire department ever been accused of stealing? Absolutely nothing. So unlike you two spineless people I will will disclose my name. My name is Tom Regis I'm a proud member of the Martins Ferry Fire Department for the past 18 years. While you sit behind your computer I'll state my name. When you do the same contact me. Nobody has a problem when I donate my time to do fire prevention and other activities up the school. Exposé your name and show your backbone because the times leader won't.

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mferry

Jan-25-13 10:12 PM

Maybe this newspaper will see this comment section is nothing except for the computer tough guys. Exposé your name.

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Captregis

Jan-26-13 12:10 AM

Read the article before you post stupid comments because the article states the box records date and time and key number anytime it is entered.

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OldTown

Jan-26-13 9:20 AM

I have been using the Knox Box system for 35 years. It has saved lives when encountering a security door that would have taken much longer using conventional forcible entry or even hydraulic methods. There can be another level of security to instill confidence to those scared of theft;the fire apparatus can have a panel holding the key. If the key is removed in any gear other than neutral, alarms sound and remind the officer to replace the key. Some doors we encounter cost in the thousands. Knox saves dollars everyday in America.

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LifeLongOV

Jan-28-13 2:45 PM

Cap Regis... u did ur homework ?? Did u go to Council w/records? (As in)... the past 5 years our FD has wasted X man hours waiting on keys ? Our FD was forced to destroy X amount of doors, at a cost of X ? NO..... you went to the MF Council, and DEMANDED they place an ordinance for the placement of boxes at taxpayers' expense. (After reading your comments) I'd think someone might be getting a "kickback" Answer this .... how many $3500 entry doors and security doors exsist in MF ? LOL You must be a Democrat, seeing how's everything is a "quick fix" for $$$, rather than a solution to the problem. Meanwhile, I'll get right on "getting ya'll a key to my house", (like the surragote Mother allowed Barry Carpenter) L O L 8)

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LifeLongOV

Jan-28-13 3:17 PM

BTW., OldTown ? Are you the CEO of "knoxbox"? Because, there is NO way you are anywhere close to the OV, and claiming you have used this "pandora's box" as a life saving device, for 35 years ? I've NEVER seen a "life lost" in the OV, because the FD claimed "the door was locked, and we couldn't get in" ? LIKE I sed "knoxbox" is a way to "line pockets", for the organizers that say YOU MUST have this .. FOR your safety, while they...... PROFIT (mark my words) PURE TYRANNY

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Captregis

Jan-28-13 6:47 PM

For your information lifelong it is a bigger problem than you think. Until you actually leave your little senseless critiques and volunteer o help our community you would not understand. This is the solution to the problem. Other less secure solutions a few business owners have suggested is giving each station a key to their front door. Six keys that get lost as has happened in the past forces new locks to be installed. No one is lining their pockets so if you want to make baseless accusations put our name out there so the lawsuits may be filed. Furthermore since you have time to respond to nearly very article on here take the time to proofread your posts because your grammar and spelling is worse than a pre-school child. For the record I have waited to get in locked buildings late at night to help elderly people who could not let us in due to their emergency.

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LifeLongOV

Jan-29-13 1:29 AM

Cap Rediculous.... Check your own spelling and grammar. I guess mine was good enough for you to understand, or you wouldn't have commented back. (or attempted to slam me) ??? Like I said "ya'll approached Council" w/ a DEMAND to pass an ordinance for "knoxboxes" WITHOUT an accurate or concise report, or any previous complaints ? Now, you say keys were given out in the past, and ALL 6 were LOST? WHAT the heck is gonna happen when y'all LOSE the "knoxesboxes" key ? LOL. You are tooooo funny 8)

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Captregis

Jan-29-13 10:18 AM

First of all your posts and opinions on this matter are meaningless to me because you hide behind a screen name and keyboard and think you know everything on anything. The facts are there. No demand was ever presented to council. However the next I get out of bed at 3:00 am to answer a call for an elderly woman that fell and has a skull fracture and she is laying in her blood and can't get in the building because she obviously can't buzz us in and no one else is awake I will let the family know that because you are anti-government we were ubable to help their mom, grandmother. Yes that did happen and it did take nearly 40 minutes to gain access to the building and her apartment. So live in your fairy tale world where you are perfect and everyone else is wrong. Until you actually join a volunteer fore department and help your community because it is a good thing to do you will have no idea how the fire and EMS service works. FYI old town is a career firefighter.

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LifeLongOV

Jan-30-13 2:33 AM

Cap Regis... What you described is horrific ! You mean to tell me.. "you knew of the serious injuries"? Yet, waited 40 mins for a key ? You should be fired/dismissed!You are trying to support a political agenda. A real RESPONDER would have knocked the door down, NOT waited, when there's a life to be saved/helped. BTW.. I'm not anti-government... I'm "anti-laws". NO WAY should anyone have to provide a "key" to their property... to anyone ... PERIOD ! IF they lose a door, it's THEIR CHOICE !!!! THANK YOU for your service to our Community, and I appreciate everything you, and the ALL volunteers do. In regards as to I am.... I'm a taxpayer, and I'll leave it at that. 8)

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Captregis

Jan-30-13 1:31 PM

Well genius we did force extrication into her building then her apartment. It is not something hat takes 2 minutes and your done. But hey maybe I need you to show me a faster way. The Knox box requires one key to a safe box to access entry to a building versus every business in town providing individual keys, losing the key id and guessing which key works. Time is a very important factor in our job. This is not a political agenda. I am not a politician. I am a taxpayer too and have more good comments from the business community than negative.

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LifeLongOV

Jan-31-13 3:18 PM

CapRegis.... you need to relax a little bit! IF you have the good recommendations, and the faith of the people, as you say you do. There is really NO need to ask City Council to pass an Ordinance/Law requiring "knoxesboxes" You folks do a GREAT JOB, and I appreciate your time and service. But, I won't allow anyone to "force me" to provide a key to my business, my home, or my neighbor's home. There are too many laws now, Cap Regis and I'll be*******IF I have another one shoved at me. I'll move my business and my house from MF, and recommend my neighbors do the same. THANKS 8) JMO

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